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In the absence of the Chair, Sheila MacFadyen invited the members to elect a chair for the meeting. The Forum agreed Eric Dearie would chair the meeting.Ìý |
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APOLOGIES FOR ABSENCE Minutes: Apologies for absence were received from Calum MacLachlainn, Tim Saul, Fred Bruce, Sheila Johnston, Raymond Boyle, Roanna Clark, Sarah Nicolson and Kenny Harrison. It was noted that the meeting was inquorate however the Chair received agreement from the Local Licensing Forum to continue with the meeting. Ìý The Forum agreed that all decisions would be homologated at the next quorate meeting of the Local Licensing Forum. |
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APPOINTMENT OF CHAIR PERSON Minutes: The Forum was reminded that at their informal meeting held on 2 September 2014, the current Chair, Kenny Harrison had advised that he had intended to step down as Chair at the next meeting. The forum discussed the role of Chair of the Forum and agreed that it would be useful if an email was circulated in advance of the next meeting of the Forum asking all members to consider taking on the role as Chair and if they are interested in considering the role to let Susan know in advance of the next meeting. Decision The Local Licensing Forum agreed that an email should be issued in advance of the next meeting asking members to consider taking on the role as Chair. |
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30 April 2014 Minutes: The Local Licensing Forum considered the Minutes of the last meeting. The Forum noted that at this stage, the sub group from the Licensing Board, which had been set up in order to form a view on overprovision had nothing to report to the group. The group discussed the informal meeting that was held as a result of the last meeting to discuss, with the Licensing Board, the role of the Forum. The group agreed that they had found the informal meeting, in which the forum sat through a meeting of the licensing board prior to the discussion with some members of the licensing board very beneficial. The forum highlighted that a major change to licensing law is about to be introduced in relation to the drink driving policy and some members of the forum felt that they should have been given an opportunity to submit their views. The forum was advised that the licensing board were also not involved in the consultation phase of these changes. Sheila MacFadyen advised that she had a copy of the agenda
from the most recent local licensing forum that had been held at West
Dunbartonshire Council, and advised the meeting as to the items on the agenda.
The meeting noted that although West Dunbartonshire had reports on the agenda
(e.g. police and licensing standards), all the reports were for noting only and
no recommendations were being made as a result of these reports. The meeting
agreed that although reports from Police Scotland and the Licensing Standards
Officers were informative, at a previous meeting they had agreed to stop
requesting such reports as they felt they were of no benefit and required
officers to collate information for noting only. Decision The Minutes of the Local Licensing Forum held on 30 April 2014 were approved as a correct record. |
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MEMBERSHIP OF THE FORUM Minutes: The Local Licensing Forum were advised that this item had
been put on the Agenda to provide the Forum with an opportunity to identify any
potential gaps in the membership. The Forum had a discussion on the membership
and advised that it would be useful to have representation from the off sales
trade on the forum. The Chair advised that Mark Tyson, who is a pub licensee and
member of the PubWatch scheme in Helensburgh, is keen
to join the Forum. The Chair advised that there are approximately 60 licensed
members clubs throughout Â鶹Ãâ·Ñ°æ and Decision The Local Licensing Forum agreed that representation from
the off sales trade and a licensed members club would benefit the Forum and in
order to cover all of Â鶹Ãâ·Ñ°æ and Bute it would be valuable to get members from
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FESTIVE HOURS POLICY Minutes: The Local Licensing Forum were provided with a copy of Â鶹Ãâ·Ñ°æ and Bute’s Licensing Board’s Festive hours policy from last year and were advised that the Licensing Board will be considering the policy at their next meeting on the 18 November 2014 and although it is likely that they will agree the same policy as last year, would like the forums views on the policy before the decision is finalised. The Chair explained the policy to the Forum and advised that this year the festive period would begin on the 12 December opposed to the 13 December. The Forum held a discussion on the policy, and agreed that although they are happy with the policy, an emphasis should be placed within the policy reminding licence holders that if they are allowing children to be in a licensed premise until 1am on 1 January 2015, that it is their responsibility to protect the children, to ensure that they are not unduly exposed to intoxicated adults. The Chair advised that protecting Children from harm is one
of the five licensing objectives as set out in the Licensing ( The Forum discussed whether it would be beneficial to be provided with statistical information in future to determine if this policy works or if it creates more problems with regard to the health service and the police, however the forum noted that it would be hard to determine if the extended hours were a factor in any change as the holiday season and planned extra resources by Police Scotland could also be accountable for any change in alcohol related statistics. Decision The Local Licensing Forum agreed to make the following representation to the Licensing Board. 1. The
Local Licensing Forum recommends that the Licensing Board make clear to the
applicant that it is their responsibility to ensure that they are providing
ample supervision at any event where children and young persons are present
until late at night to ensure that they are not unduly exposed to intoxicated
adults. 2. The
Local Licensing Forum recommends that the Board consider using health and crime
statistics in the future when deciding on their Festive Hours Policy to ensure
the policy they have in place is successful.Ìý
However the Forum also noted that it would be hard to determine whether
a change in statistics was a result of the Festive Hours Policy or was because
of the increased resources put in place by Police Scotland over the holiday
season.Ìý |
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THE FIVE POLICY OBJECTIVES Minutes: The Chair advised that the agenda should read the five licensing objectives as opposed to the five policy objectives, and asked Sheila MacFadyen to remind the Forum of the five licensing objectives. Sheila MacFadyen advised that it had been agreed at the informal meeting of the Local Licensing Forum that the five licensing objectives should be a standing item on all future agendas, and this would allow the forum to raise any issues they had at any meeting. The Chair advised that under the previous item we had spoken a lot about objective (e), Protecting Children from Harm and he advised that as part of The Air Weapons Bill currently progressing through the Scottish Parliament that this was being updated to read Protecting Children and Young Persons from Harm. The Chair reported that the Licensing Board are required to take into account each of the Licensing Policy Objectives when deciding whether to grant or deny every licensingÌý application. The Forum agreed that it would be helpful if the five objectives were detailed on each agenda to remind people of what they were. Decision The Forum agreed that for future agendas, the Five Licensing Objectives should be detailed to remind the forum of what they are. |
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ALCOHOL FOCUS SCOTLAND REPORT ON THE REVIEW OF STATEMENTS OF LICENSING POLICY PDF 2 MB Minutes: The Chair advised the Forum that the report had recently
been considered at a licensing conference. The report highlights Alcohol Focus
concerns regarding Licensing Boards throughout Decision The Local Licensing Forum noted the report by Alcohol Focus (Reference: Report by Alcohol Focus |
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ANY OTHER BUSINESS Minutes: Pub Watch The Local Licensing Forum held a discussion on the pub watch
scheme. The Chair advised that currently there are three pub watch schemes
operating within Â鶹Ãâ·Ñ°æ and Police Sergeant David Ferguson provided an update on behalf of
Police Scotland. He advised the Forum that there were no major issues within
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DATE OF NEXT MEETING Minutes: Sheila MacFadyen advised that the group are required to have a joint meeting with the Licensing Board and reported that the proposed date for this meeting is Wednesday 10 December 2014. |