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Public Question Time

Meeting: 12/03/2024 - Helensburgh & Lomond Area Committee (Item 4)

Public Question Time

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Minutes:

Having noted that there were members of the public in attendance, the Chair invited them to submit any questions they may have.

 

Kenneth Lockhart, Cardross Cycle Path Action Group

Since the year 2000, 鶹Ѱ and Bute Council have been discussing and have partially implemented a cyclepath between Helensburgh and Dumbarton. There have been lengthy delays in delivering this route for a variety of reasons. We note from the previous minutes, the delivery of this path is a stated Council Priority.  24 years on, anticipated completion is still some years away.  On behalf of the community of Cardross, The Cardross Cyclepath Action Group would like to ask:

What assurances can the Helensburgh and Lomond Area Committee give to the community of Cardross that construction of the cyclepath, as a stated Council Priority, will be given the highest priority in terms of both staff and financial resources?

How can the community of Cardross and the Cardross Cyclepath Action Group best support 鶹Ѱ and Bute Council in delivering this sustainable travel route?

The Committee members agreed that they all wished the cyclepath to be completed and that they were aware of issues and assured Mr Lockhart that the cyclepath remained a priority.

Councillor Mulvaney highlighted his frustration regarding the lack of progress and welcomed the support of the community to get this over the line. Councillor Mulvaney suggested that if landowners got the message of this support for the cyclepath it may be helpful to move the project forward. The Committee Manager advised that with permission, he would share Mr Lockhart’s contact details with the designated officer.

Norman McNally, Helensburgh Community Council

I read that both the Ryder Community Engagement exercise and the Collier Retail Study have been instrumental in finalising the bid selection for the Waterfront site.

My question concerns the Helensburgh Waterfront Community Engagement Reporting carried out by Ryder Architecture, Glasgow.

This stakeholder engagement was carried out over the course of a week between 17 and 23 June 2023.The architects had prepared five sets of themed image panels “illustrating the range of options currently being put forward for the Waterfront site in terms of broad function or type”.

Ten scheduled events were held in which a total of 83 people participated. The Report was published in September 2023. Attendees were invited to identify any images they liked or disliked (green and red dot-sticking) and discuss the pros and cons of each option.

The Report uses a wide range of loose descriptions to indicate the frequency of similarities in feedback gathered, and thus attempts to arrive at some important Key Findings. Words such as:

Everyone, Most, Many, Some, Several, Others, Few, Small number and further vague descriptors such as mixed feedback, positive feedback, very popular, positively received, even ‘close to the hearts’

In developing the feedback descriptions above, the author(s) will have had the dot-tally from each option to hand; one trusts the above commentary is based upon the numerical dot-sticking feedback gathered over those ten sessions. I am concerned that this verifying data remains absent from public view, particularly in the light of the Council’s declared reliance on this study.

My question is this.

Can the Council affirm that the selected development will meet the Key Findings criteria laid out the Ryder Report?

Which of the five alternative themes offered by Ryder Architecture received the greatest positive, and which alternative theme received the greatest negative Stakeholder Engagement returns?

Will the Council publish the actual (positive and negative) dot-tally data that relate to each of these five options?

The Estates & Property Development Manager advised that they had recently received information from the consultants and that the engagement consultants gave advice on how they would like to take things forward and where they would like to set it up. Mr Allan highlighted that the idea of the consultation was to reach parties who had not previously engaged with the Council, to get their views and find out why their views were what they were. It was highlighted that from the engagement study there was no strong consensus with many different views. Mr Allan advised that he would provide a written response in detail to Mr McNally following the meeting.

 

The Head of Commercial 鶹Ѱ advised that the engagement report was based on engagement workshops carried out in September 2023, reinforcing that there was no consensus on any of the 5 options.

Mr Allan advised that the engagement exercise was an additional step undertaken by the Council to encourage people who were not engaging to give their views and that there would still be statutory consultation on any application by way of the planning process.

Cameron Foy, Helensburgh Community Council

At the last Area Committee meeting Councillor Mulvaney wrongly stated that supporters of Helensburgh skatepark were “re-writing history” in relation to the location of a skatepark on the waterfront development.  A permanent skatepark on the waterfront in Helensburgh town centre was promised by 鶹Ѱ & Bute Council in its Masterplan adopted back in 2012 after lengthy public consultation.

 

Is the Council still committed to delivering the key elements of its approved Masterplan, including limiting commercial development to 2,600 sq m gross, and space for a skatepark as intended?

 

The Estates & Property Development Manager confirmed that this is built into the Masterplan and none of the proposals would exceed that space. Mr Allan also advised that as agreed at the September 2023 Area Committee, the skatepark would be located on the Waterfront unless a more suitable location was identified.

Peter Brown, Helensburgh Community Council

Question 1 and 2

The agenda for the H&L Area Committee meeting states that the Committee will be asked to pass a resolution to exclude from the public Appendices B, C and D of the Pierhead development item.  These Appendices are referenced in the overview briefing as:

  • Appendix B - a summary of the five proposals received.
  • Appendix C - council officers' assessment of the five proposals, and selection of 2 preferred bidders, and
  • Appendix D - Avison Young's review of  ...  view the full minutes text for item 4

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